While the plastics treaty talks failed to close the deal in South Korea — and big hurdles remain — diplomats and participants on all sides came away pointing to signs of progress despite the rancor.
Public debates and press conferences at the talks in Busan focused on major conflicts, like whether to include production caps.
But many observers also said that, behind the scenes, areas of agreement were clearly emerging. Countries plan to meet again in 2025 to try to salvage a deal from what could have been the collapse of the talks in Busan.
The International Council of Chemical Associations, for example, said some its key priorities were showing up in the treaty's draft framework, even if things it opposes such as targets to reduce plastic production were also there.
"It's pretty clear, when you look through the text, you do see that there are a number of elements that are ICCA priorities," said ICCA spokesman Stewart Harris, pointing to language around product design, waste management, recycling rates and extended producer responsibility.
"I do think governments were moving toward some consensus texts on which they could agree at this meeting, and they really ran out of time," he said.
In a Dec. 2 interview in Busan, hours after the talks ended, Harris said those areas where governments are finding agreement are "going to be useful to our priority of this agreement sending clear demand signals to the private sector to help improve circularity."
But those on the other side, like Norwegian government negotiator Erlend Draget, also pointed to growing agreement at the Busan talks for controversial provisions like production reduction targets and chemicals toxicity.
"Despite pushback from some countries, we saw significant convergence emerge at this meeting," said Draget, whose country is one of two co-chairs of the High Ambition Coalition, a group of 60-plus countries. "For the first time we can see the contours of a treaty most can support in the revised text."
The group Zero Waste Europe called it a "little mentioned victory" that the framing of the talks have shifted away from nations who want a more limited treaty confined to waste management and recycling, like Saudi Arabia, Russia and Iran.
"The battle of the framing is won," said Joan Marc Simon, ZWE founder. "The blockers of this process openly talk against production cuts, plastic levies and toxic chemicals.
"They are, thereby, accepting a framing which they neither control nor master, and which provides the conditions for the countries with ambition to draw a line behind which they stand together with civil society and progressive industry," Simon said.